Hi there,

I'm running Xming on WinXP with slack-11 (almost) as headless client, running an
'xterm &' is okay, can drag it all over the place, but running 'vmware &' opens
the window in top left of screen and cannot be dragged

kedit, xv, rxvt all open in draggable windows, but not vmware.

How fix? Or, can I specify a starting x,y offset to the window? Me rusty on
this unix X11 stuff

Thanks,
Grant.
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 07:02:46 +1000, Grant <g_r_a_n_t_@dodo.com.au> wrote:

>I'm running Xming on WinXP with slack-11 (almost) as headless client, running an
>'xterm &' is okay, can drag it all over the place, but running 'vmware &' opens
>the window in top left of screen and cannot be dragged
>
>kedit, xv, rxvt all open in draggable windows, but not vmware.
>
>How fix? Or, can I specify a starting x,y offset to the window? Me rusty on
>this unix X11 stuff

More info: if I resize vmware window wider, then the edge of the top title bar
shows and I can then drag the window position. Odd?

Grant.
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On 2006-09-22, Grant <g_r_a_n_t_@dodo.com.au> wrote:

> the window in top left of screen and cannot be dragged

didja try holding down Alt while dragging?

nb

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:28:12 -0500, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:

>On 2006-09-22, Grant <g_r_a_n_t_@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> the window in top left of screen and cannot be dragged
>
>didja try holding down Alt while dragging?

Nothing to grab hold of, until I resize the window. If I could tell the
application an x,y display offset?

For example the first 'xterm &' I start via PuTTY comes up with 20px
x and y display start offset, but starting vmware is like 'no decoration'
setting until I resize it.

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On 2006-09-22, Grant <g_r_a_n_t_@dodo.com.au> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:28:12 -0500, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2006-09-22, Grant <g_r_a_n_t_@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> the window in top left of screen and cannot be dragged
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>didja try holding down Alt while dragging?
>
> Nothing to grab hold of.....

Hold down Alt, then put the cusor arrow anywhere on the window, press and
hold down left mouse button, and move window. I can't say if this
will work through putty, but it works on KDE desktop.

nb

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:15:28 -0500, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:

>On 2006-09-22, Grant <g_r_a_n_t_@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:28:12 -0500, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2006-09-22, Grant <g_r_a_n_t_@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the window in top left of screen and cannot be dragged
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>>>didja try holding down Alt while dragging?
>>
>> Nothing to grab hold of.....
>
>Hold down Alt, then put the cusor arrow anywhere on the window, press and
>hold down left mouse button, and move window. I can't say if this
>will work through putty, but it works on KDE desktop.

Nada -- follows windoze rules for dragging, no title bar, no dragging

Like the vmware window is opened in 'one window without title bar' mode,
but a resize of the vmware window adds the 'decorations', and enough of
the title bar is visible to grab and drag. So I found a workaround, I'd
still like to start the thing at an offset -- got to RTFM

The reason it is annoying is that I have fly-out toolbars on winxp each
side and top, so a window stuck in the top-left corner means I keep
getting flyout menus in me face

I'm quite happy to run slackware headless and have X11 apps on 'doze
desktop, really is the best of both worlds )

Thanks,
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 08:52:04 +1000
Grant <g_r_a_n_t_@dodo.com.au> wrote:
> I'm quite happy to run slackware headless and have X11 apps on 'doze
> desktop, really is the best of both worlds )

I bet the best of the 'doze desktop is Alt+F4
;-))))

Mikhail

Grant <g_r_a_n_t_@dodo.com.au> wrote:
> Nada -- follows windoze rules for dragging, no title bar, no dragging

Your problem seem to be a combination of a Window manager with missing
functionalities and an application that doesn't behave good. One solution
would be to switch window manager, another solution would be to switch to
another application.

Instead of using the MS Windows window manager with Xming you can start
Xming as an xdmcp client. If you configure the Slackware box to run kdm or
another *dm you can connect by Xming. By logging in with kdm you will be
able to choose your favorite window manager and the default will be a kde
environment.

To configure kdm to allow remote logins you should edit the following
file:

/opt/kde/share/config/kdm/Xaccess

I have the following in my Xaccess:
-8<-----------------------------------------------------------------
* #any host can get a login window
* CHOOSER BROADCAST #any indirect host can get a chooser
-8<-----------------------------------------------------------------

The above is on a Slackware 9.1 system. Other versions might have Xaccess
in another directory. The file /opt/kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc has the
following section pointing out where to find Xaccess:

-8<-----------------------------------------------------------------
[Xdmcp]
Enable=true
Willing=/opt/kde/share/config/kdm/Xwilling
Xaccess=/opt/kde/share/config/kdm/Xaccess
-8<-----------------------------------------------------------------

If you prefer to keep the MS Windows window manager for your X
applications you might want to replace the vmware application. One such
replacement could be qemu.

regards Henrik
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:53:10 +0400, Mikhail Zotov <invalid_muxaul@lenta.ru> wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 08:52:04 +1000
>Grant <g_r_a_n_t_@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>> I'm quite happy to run slackware headless and have X11 apps on 'doze
>> desktop, really is the best of both worlds )
>
>I bet the best of the 'doze desktop is Alt+F4

I go all Dragon Drooly: click
on
the
button
with
the
mouse
pointer.

I've gone retro, installing MessyDos 6.22 and doze 3.11 in vmware, this
after getting win95c up

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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 08:28:50 +0200, Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote:

>Grant <g_r_a_n_t_@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>> Nada -- follows windoze rules for dragging, no title bar, no dragging
>
>Your problem seem to be a combination of a Window manager with missing
>functionalities and an application that doesn't behave good.

Agreed, kept your article for reference...

Was 2002 last I used unix - unix X11, forgotten all the details, so
many options. I'm looking at vmware 'cos a friend has it, but the
multiple computer model I use here is easier -- so vmware is not a
desired application for X11, I can run winxp host.

Other applications I've tried all behave themselves, I'd like faster
graphics drawing but not sure where the compression is done -- tried
unticking the compression box on PuTTY config, not much worse, might
be time to try another server?

Thanks,
Grant.
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