Does 11 install udev by default? Is the old /dev system still an option?

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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:06:28 -0000, HaroldWho <hlarons@yahoo.com> wrote:

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>Does 11 install udev by default? Is the old /dev system still an option?

Yes and yes.

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Grant wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:06:28 -0000, HaroldWho <hlarons@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Does 11 install udev by default? Is the old /dev system still an option?
>
> Yes and yes.
>
> Grant.

agree.

but what out. I set up fstab like as my usuall habit (dvd rw and cd rw) and lost
track of the mount point and symlinks to hdc and hdd - kept trying to mount the wrong
device until it dawned on me - (also KDE desktop icon confusion - use those so kids
can mount easier). there are several /dev/cd* and /dev/dvd* symlinks that KDE
prefers you use in fstab to get the fancy icons that say "cd recorder" etc.

HaroldWho <hlarons@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is the old /dev system still an option?

Depends on the kernel you're using.
As far as I understand it a fixed /dev dir is NOT an option anymore
for kernels 2.6.15 and later, but you can still use /dev with a
2.4 kernel.

As the install kernel normally IS a 2.4 one (and of course udev has
to be loaded FROM the root disk) you still must install the devs
package, even when you're planning to use one of the 2.6 kernels.
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On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:00:07 +0100, Eef Hartman wrote in alt.os.linux.slackware:
> HaroldWho <hlarons@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Is the old /dev system still an option?
>
> Depends on the kernel you're using.
> As far as I understand it a fixed /dev dir is NOT an option anymore
> for kernels 2.6.15 and later, but you can still use /dev with a
> 2.4 kernel.
>
> As the install kernel normally IS a 2.4 one (and of course udev has
> to be loaded FROM the root disk) you still must install the devs
> package, even when you're planning to use one of the 2.6 kernels.

Thanks for clearing that up. I've used a handrolled 2.6.13 for some time
now, and I think I want to keep my /dev for a while longer.

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Eef Hartman wrote:

> As far as I understand it a fixed /dev dir is NOT an option anymore
> for kernels 2.6.15 and later, ...

I don't know about later, but ...

: calliope[syl] ~; uname -r
2.6.15.6
: calliope[syl] ~; ls -ld /dev
drwxr-xr-x 18 root system 40960 Nov 1 23:19 /dev/
: calliope[syl] ~; ls -l /dev |head
total 188
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root system 38813 Jul 12 2005 MAKEDEV*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root system 1162 Jul 12 2005 README.MAKEDEV
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root system 4 Dec 30 2005 X0R -> null
crw-rw--w- 1 root audio 14, 14 Aug 29 2003 admmidi0
crw-rw--w- 1 root audio 14, 30 Aug 29 2003 admmidi1
crw-rw--w- 1 root audio 14, 46 Aug 29 2003 admmidi2
crw-rw--w- 1 root audio 14, 62 Aug 29 2003 admmidi3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root system 5 Dec 30 2005 adsp -> adsp0
crw-rw--w- 1 root sys 14, 12 Aug 29 2003 adsp0


I won't bother listing the whole directory ...
I've not bothered at all learning how to setup udev, and haven't needed
to (at least so far) ...

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On 2006-11-02, Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@math.tudelft.nl> wrote:
> HaroldWho <hlarons@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Is the old /dev system still an option?
>
> Depends on the kernel you're using.
> As far as I understand it a fixed /dev dir is NOT an option anymore
> for kernels 2.6.15 and later, but you can still use /dev with a
> 2.4 kernel.


Nah, you can still use static device nodes with newer kernels.

RW

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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:59:18 GMT, Robby Workman wrote in alt.os.linux.slackware:
> On 2006-11-02, Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@math.tudelft.nl> wrote:
>> HaroldWho <hlarons@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Is the old /dev system still an option?
....
>> but you can still use /dev with a 2.4 kernel.

> Nah, you can still use static device nodes with newer kernels.

I'm relieved. The /dev tree has served me without a problem for a looong
time. "If it ain't broke..."

Thanks,
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Eef Hartman wrote:
> HaroldWho <hlarons@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Is the old /dev system still an option?
>
> Depends on the kernel you're using.
> As far as I understand it a fixed /dev dir is NOT an option anymore
> for kernels 2.6.15 and later, but you can still use /dev with a
> 2.4 kernel.

You can still use the fixed /dev for 2.6 kernels; by just disabling udev.

Olive