Spent 48 hours fighting unresponsive installation, so collapsed in front
of 'idiot-box' and fought my brain till it admitted total failure. So
pulled from drawer the CD's of 10.2, installed over the 11 install and
things are looking much more _normal_.
Any partners to this solution??
Lets hope that the "upgrade" fanatics won't put us on stake.

Have fun

Stanislaw
Slack _10.2_ user from Ulladulla

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:56:07 GMT, Stanislaw Flatto <compaid@brownbear.com.au> wrote:

>Spent 48 hours fighting unresponsive installation, so collapsed in front
>of 'idiot-box' and fought my brain till it admitted total failure. So
>pulled from drawer the CD's of 10.2, installed over the 11 install and
>things are looking much more _normal_.

So, what was the problem?

>Any partners to this solution??

Nuh uh, me running -current on one box, 11.0 on others no problem,
including the little Dell router box with p-mmx/233 and 128MB memory...

>Lets hope that the "upgrade" fanatics won't put us on stake.

Oh goody, where's the firewood and oil?
>
>Have fun

Just 'a lost soul in a fish bowl' )

Grant.
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Stanislaw said "Usability = downgrading 11.0--->10.2"
> Spent 48 hours fighting unresponsive installation, so collapsed in front
> of 'idiot-box' and fought my brain till it admitted total failure. So
> pulled from drawer the CD's of 10.2, installed over the 11 install and
> things are looking much more _normal_.
> Any partners to this solution??
> Lets hope that the "upgrade" fanatics won't put us on stake.
>
> Have fun
>
> Stanislaw
> Slack _10.2_ user from Ulladulla

Not blaming ya here. I've moved to Debian to have up to date software,
but miss Slackware terribly. Once 11.1 comes out I'll be trying it out
to see what's up.

My servers still run 10.2 with patches, but I couldn't use 11.0. It's a
*.0 after all...

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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:56:07 +0000, Stanislaw Flatto wrote:

> Spent 48 hours fighting unresponsive installation, so collapsed in front
> of 'idiot-box' and fought my brain till it admitted total failure. So
> pulled from drawer the CD's of 10.2, installed over the 11 install and
> things are looking much more _normal_. Any partners to this solution??
> Lets hope that the "upgrade" fanatics won't put us on stake.

I have version 11 also on a partition and am slowly trying to remember
all the stuff I added, so on.

It's almost done but thing is 10.2 does everything I want it too
perfectly. So I'm very reluctant to change.

I did this several years ago with one version of Slack that was just so
good I couldn't bring myself to change.

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> I've moved to Debian to have up to date software,

There as a massive contradiction in terms

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Stanislaw Flatto wrote:
> Spent 48 hours fighting unresponsive installation, so collapsed in front
> of 'idiot-box' and fought my brain till it admitted total failure. So
> pulled from drawer the CD's of 10.2, installed over the 11 install and
> things are looking much more _normal_.
> Any partners to this solution??
> Lets hope that the "upgrade" fanatics won't put us on stake.
>
> Have fun
>
> Stanislaw
> Slack _10.2_ user from Ulladulla
I am also waiting to see the next Slackware and in the mean time I am running
Vector 5.1 .
Mostly it does what I ask.

--
Leo in Canada:
If Microsoft is the question, then LINUX is the answer.
< running Linux >

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:56:07 +0000, Stanislaw Flatto wrote:

> Spent 48 hours fighting unresponsive installation, so collapsed in front
> of 'idiot-box' and fought my brain till it admitted total failure.

Any chance you noted the error messages ?-)

> So
> pulled from drawer the CD's of 10.2, installed over the 11 install and
> things are looking much more _normal_. Any partners to this solution??

Not here, one desktop under -current (and K2.6.20.3), one laptop
with 11.0 + patches, one laptop with 11.0+-K2.6.18.specifics (yes, laptops
are real PITA to tune up sometimes )

I reckon, the move to Xorg7 was a funny moment on the desktop,
that's the reason why the laptops are still with X6.9. as I think
I'll need some clear time ahead to avoid locking my daughters off
their work tools.

> Lets hope that the "upgrade" fanatics wontput us on stake.

Not really upgrade fanatic here, just playful with too many feet to
shoot at ;-)

> > Have fun

That's a real variable not a parameter :|)

Stanislaw Flatto wrote:
> Spent 48 hours fighting unresponsive installation, so collapsed in front
> of 'idiot-box' and fought my brain till it admitted total failure. So
> pulled from drawer the CD's of 10.2, installed over the 11 install and
> things are looking much more _normal_.
> Any partners to this solution??
> Lets hope that the "upgrade" fanatics won't put us on stake.
>
> Have fun
>
> Stanislaw
> Slack _10.2_ user from Ulladulla
Maybe we should form a club. Seems that for gurus; bozos ...et all,
Slackware IS a good teacher to stick to something that does its job.
So am repeating every morning "If it ain't broke don't fix it!"
We always learn.

Isn't Slackware a good teacher?

BTW the person that mentioned Vector Linux, it is installed on some
spare partiton on my box and was one of reasons I run to get 11
installed as it was working like a charm.

Stanislaw
Slack user from Ulladulla.

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:56:07 +0000, Stanislaw Flatto wrote:

> Spent 48 hours fighting unresponsive installation, so collapsed in front
> of 'idiot-box' and fought my brain till it admitted total failure. So
> pulled from drawer the CD's of 10.2, installed over the 11 install and
> things are looking much more _normal_. Any partners to this solution??
> Lets hope that the "upgrade" fanatics won't put us on stake.
>
> Have fun
>
> Stanislaw
> Slack _10.2_ user from Ulladulla

In all fairness, it DOES take more work to get Slack to work. And, a
mistake along the way CAN have unintended consequences. That said, I do
not share your troubles with S11. You're not being real specific, so I
can't tell what borked on you. But, kernel 2.6 is a must, and many
software packages you might install WILL require additional libraries
which MAY have different dependencies vs. what is installed.

It's important to realize that with Slackware, YOU are accountable for
what is on your system. So, if library foo requires bar, and bar requires
baz, it's up to you to get and install the right versions AND keep them
up to date.

Really, IMHO, it's a matter of the rule of five Ps. PRIOR PLANNING
PREVENTS POOR PERFORMANCE. Slack forces you to do that. Most other
distros assume you are blind, deaf, and dumb.

I don't consider myself a linux Guru, and I do use Slack on a standalone
system, but I have my system performing as well as when I had Gentoo
installed, which could always be updated. I've installed both Gnome and
KDE from source, and all the libraries they require were updated
manually. I have hal, dbus, and avahi installed from source (they were
the hardest).

However, now, it's just a matter of upgrading when there is a bug, or
security update.

Anyway, choosing and using a distro is such a personal thing. And, the
amount of work one wishes to do also plays a factor. You'll have to work
a lot harder to get Slackware upgraded than an RPM-type distro, but do
not be deceived into RPM complacency. It's no panacea.

Good luck.

--
Peter

In article <462b2a15@news.comindico.com.au>, Stanislaw Flatto wrote:
> Maybe we should form a club. Seems that for gurus; bozos ...et all,
> Slackware IS a good teacher to stick to something that does its job.
> So am repeating every morning "If it ain't broke don't fix it!"
> We always learn.
Thats why my main server still is based on slackware 8.0! Too
much work invested in building it up from the slackware 8.0 system to
go and redo it from scratch! The inhouse file server is now Slackware
10.2. and my Mac was running Slackintosh 10.2 which I may return to.
only it does not have gnome and the arts sound server for KDE on the
mac is broken in slackintosh 10.2, whereas in Debian.... I got sound from
everything but console/xterm. (Slackware had a bell sound in console.)
We were talking about package managers awhile back here on
aols. one word of warning to anyone who upgrades using an updater.
Watch where you put your fingers! (pun intended) It broke my debian
system by throwing more layers upon layers of crap! Slackware's own
upgrade tools can do the same! I should have stayed with source
tarballs and compiled my own additional packages like I used to do on
pinkrose.dhis.org (that one I still add stuff via self compiles) But
I did get Thunderbird and Icescape (its an upddate to mozilla's
netscape) and the latest open office with debian so it is a
frustrating catch 22 for the PPC. Lose the better software repository
for simplicity or keep the bloat and run through it with a digital
chainsaw to cut down the brush.
Last night on Debian I had to compile xv from scratch as
debian.org did not have xv as a dpkg. No major compile hassles. one
mite to fix and all is good. (I really do like the gnome interface
over the KDE one. Only gnome's startup tone (by default) drives me
nuts! need a nicer one.)

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