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Old 02-20-2008, 09:52 PM
Jim
 
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Your machine easily has enough horsepower to handle slackware.

I'm running 10.2 on a 9 year old NEC laptop (300 Mhz P1, 128mb ram, 4G HD) without
a hiccup. 11.0 would probably be fine as well, but I stuck with 10.2 b/c of HD space
restraints. I run it w/ fluxbox and didn't bother to install the KDE packages.

Wifi works great on it too - it's actually my wardriving rig.

I tried SLAX with it (as a live CD), but it was really sluggish compared to the 10.2 install.
You can't beat slackware for breathing new life into old hardware.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:52 PM
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In article <IvnZh.969$YQ1.64@trndny02>, Jim <Jim@Doe.com> wrote:

> I run it w/ fluxbox and didn't bother to install the KDE packages.


Does Flux handle fonts as well as KDE? I might spend a lot of time in
low light looking at the screen and my old eyes need sharp fonts. This
is the main reason I didn't use Damn Small. An old version of Mepis that
I have laying around (live CD) looked good.

I tried Slax and the liveCD and it worked fine until I tried to download
some modules (a few games, and some editors) and when trying to start
any of them the entire lappy locked up. So much for that idea.

Al
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:52 PM
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:37:36 +0000, ANC wrote:

> In article <IvnZh.969$YQ1.64@trndny02>, Jim <Jim@Doe.com> wrote:
>
>> I run it w/ fluxbox and didn't bother to install the KDE packages.

>
> Does Flux handle fonts as well as KDE? I might spend a lot of time in
> low light looking at the screen and my old eyes need sharp fonts. This
> is the main reason I didn't use Damn Small. An old version of Mepis that
> I have laying around (live CD) looked good.


I'm not so sure about the fonts. I haven't strayed from default. but
your laptop shouldn't have much trouble with KDE.

> I tried Slax and the liveCD and it worked fine until I tried to download
> some modules (a few games, and some editors) and when trying to start
> any of them the entire lappy locked up. So much for that idea.
>
> Al


Right - it can be hit or miss with those Slax modules. One thing that
works well is loading Slax to a bootable usb stick. Create a 'modules'
directory on the stick and copy all your .mo files into /modules. Then
boot to the stick (providing the BIOS supports it). The modules should be
available when system comes up.
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ANC
 
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In article <pan.2007.04.30.22.32.40.992204@Doe.com>, Jim <Jim@Doe.com>
wrote:

> One thing that
> works well is loading Slax to a bootable usb stick. Create a 'modules'
> directory on the stick and copy all your .mo files into /modules. Then
> boot to the stick (providing the BIOS supports it). The modules should be
> available when system comes up.


Problem is that the lappy has only one USB and I use it for a mouse
because the red mouse pointer thingy is hard to use for anyone with a
bit of arthritis in their fingers. Also, I don't believe the BIOS of
this ancient beast will let you boot to USB.

I loaded a 2 year old copy of Mepis on the HD. Runs fine... but
sloooooooowwwww. Slax on the CD was faster (both use KDE). When I get
the time I'll download and burn Slack 11 and see how it goes.

To install Slack these days do I need all 3 CDs or only first two? I
just want KDE and the usual packages that come with it. All I ever do
with my travel machine is use web-based email and write memos at the
airport (assuming I can find a place to plug in) via the KATE utility.
I'll probably put apache and my sql and php on it is possible so I can
use phpMyAdmin to front a 'contact' database. Works fine on another old
IBM lappy I use running Slack 9.

Thanks for the help.

Al
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:52 PM
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ANC wrote:

>Problem is that the lappy has only one USB and I use it for a mouse
>because the red mouse pointer thingy is hard to use for anyone with a
>bit of arthritis in their fingers.


http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/...usb_hub_review

>Also, I don't believe the BIOS of
>this ancient beast will let you boot to USB.


Does it have a floppy drive?

--
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/>

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:10:24 -0700, ANC wrote:

> In article <pan.2007.04.30.22.32.40.992204@Doe.com>, Jim <Jim@Doe.com>
> wrote:
>
>> One thing that
>> works well is loading Slax to a bootable usb stick. Create a 'modules'
>> directory on the stick and copy all your .mo files into /modules. Then
>> boot to the stick (providing the BIOS supports it). The modules should be
>> available when system comes up.

>
> Problem is that the lappy has only one USB and I use it for a mouse
> because the red mouse pointer thingy is hard to use for anyone with a
> bit of arthritis in their fingers. Also, I don't believe the BIOS of
> this ancient beast will let you boot to USB.


Many face that dilemma. Slax.org has an .iso of a boot CD w/ usb drivers.
So anyone whose bios can't usb boot could boot the CD which then loads the
OS from the usb stick. Nifty but impractical in your case.

> I loaded a 2 year old copy of Mepis on the HD. Runs fine... but
> sloooooooowwwww. Slax on the CD was faster (both use KDE). When I get
> the time I'll download and burn Slack 11 and see how it goes.
>
> To install Slack these days do I need all 3 CDs or only first two? I
> just want KDE and the usual packages that come with it. All I ever do
> with my travel machine is use web-based email and write memos at the
> airport (assuming I can find a place to plug in) via the KATE utility.
> I'll probably put apache and my sql and php on it is possible so I can
> use phpMyAdmin to front a 'contact' database. Works fine on another old
> IBM lappy I use running Slack 9.


I'm fairly sure you'll only need the first 2 CDs for that kind of
install. Most of the nuts and bolts stuff is on CD 1 and the
KDE/apps stuff is on CD 2. Also, for linux wifi info, this is a great
site - http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/

The 'wireless tools' that Jean Tourillhes wrote are part of the (N)etwork
group of packages in Slack. I found a cheap wifi card on ebay that works
nicely. It's an Atheros-based card, so I also had to compile and load
the madwifi drivers (which was completely painless) - though lots of cards
now include linux drivers.

> Thanks for the help.
>
> Al


Glad to help.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:53 PM
ANC
 
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In article <mJCdnfZC1ojBnqrb4p2dnA@giganews.com>,
Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:

> ANC wrote:
>
> >Problem is that the lappy has only one USB and I use it for a mouse
> >because the red mouse pointer thingy is hard to use for anyone with a
> >bit of arthritis in their fingers.

>
> http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/...usb_hub_review
>


This is pretty neat. Thanks. I'll look for it at Fry's next time I'm
there. I sometimes want to plug at pen-drive in and I have to remove the
mouse and use the red pointer thingy.



> >Also, I don't believe the BIOS of
> >this ancient beast will let you boot to USB.

>
> Does it have a floppy drive?


Well yes, but you it is external, it is heavy has hell, and I would not
travel with it.

For the hell of it I burned both Ubuntu and Xubuntu to try the LIVE CDs
(no install). Xubuntu booted to the graphical screen but the top and
bottom panel were missing. I tried a million different VGA settings and
finally gave up. Oh, and it was a 5 minute boot. Honestly. Five whole
minutes. Ubuntu worked well out of the box (with acpi=off boot code) but
it also took 4 or 5 minutes to boot. Seems to hang on trying to find the
non-existant floppy... and it eventually gives up. I was impressed with
Ubuntu once I turned off the brown and made it KDE-blue. I still like
KDE better.

This weekend I'll burn Slack and go through the install. I have Slack on
another ThinkPad so I'm not expecting any problems. I've not found a
wireless card for it... but they are out there for about $40.

Al
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