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xorg.conf? migrating from crt to lcd

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Old 02-20-2008, 10:11 PM
Melissa
 
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B.Hoffmann <spamtrap@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 21 May 2007 08:40:00 GMT
> Melissa <fishlover@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Section "Monitor"
>> Identifier "Viewsonic VX2035wm"
>> HorizSync 30.0 - 82.0
>> VertRefresh 50.0 - 85.0
>> # Enable Energy Star functionality
>> # Option "DPMS"
>> EndSection
>>

>
> Viewsonic, though once perceived as cheap, seem to be making some quite
> good monitors. I just had a look at the VX2030wm pondering if I should
> buy it. Are you happy with yours?
>


So far, I've not had any issues with mine except for one stuck on blue
pixel. It's far nicer than the old Dell I have in my office, although part
of that may be because the Dell is having to convert from a VGA connector.
I have a DVI video card for my Viewsonic at home. For the price (got it at
NewEgg w/ rebate and free shipping), I can't really complain. The extra
space a widescreen provides is quite nice.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:11 PM
ray
 
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 12:22:42 +0000, B.Hoffmann wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> my old Misubishi Diamondtron discoloured recently (after someone who 'helped' me move let it slip and fall onto the pavement) and I'm thinking of switching the machine over to an LG Flatron L1920 lcd panel.
>
> With this or any other lcd, is there anything that really needs to be adjusted in xorg.conf to prevent long lasting damage to either monitor or graphics card even if it should come up fine on boot?
>
> Thanks,
> Bernhard


Yes. Enter vertical and horizontal refresh ranges.

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Old 02-20-2008, 10:11 PM
rm@biteme.org
 
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ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 May 2007 12:22:42 +0000, B.Hoffmann wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> my old Misubishi Diamondtron discoloured recently (after someone who 'helped' me move let it slip and fall onto the pavement) and I'm thinking of switching the machine over to an LG Flatron L1920 lcd panel.
>>
>> With this or any other lcd, is there anything that really needs to be adjusted in xorg.conf to prevent long lasting damage to either monitor or graphics card even if it should come up fine on boot?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bernhard

>
> Yes. Enter vertical and horizontal refresh ranges.


Hardly. X automagically calculates these for you.

cordially, as always,

rm
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:11 PM
Floyd L. Davidson
 
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rm@biteme.org wrote:
>ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 May 2007 12:22:42 +0000, B.Hoffmann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> my old Misubishi Diamondtron discoloured recently (after someone who 'helped' me move let it slip and fall onto the pavement) and I'm thinking of switching the machine over to an LG Flatron L1920 lcd panel.
>>>
>>> With this or any other lcd, is there anything that really needs to be adjusted in xorg.conf to prevent long lasting damage to either monitor or graphics card even if it should come up fine on boot?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bernhard

>>
>> Yes. Enter vertical and horizontal refresh ranges.

>
>Hardly. X automagically calculates these for you.


Automagically calculates? I don't think so.

The monitor supplies the range that it can use. But one
very handy way to force a particular mode is to override
the range supplied by the monitor. And the way to do
that...

"Yes. Enter vertical and horizontal refresh ranges."

--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@apaflo.com
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:11 PM
ray
 
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On Tue, 22 May 2007 01:21:51 +0000, rm wrote:

> ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 May 2007 12:22:42 +0000, B.Hoffmann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> my old Misubishi Diamondtron discoloured recently (after someone who 'helped' me move let it slip and fall onto the pavement) and I'm thinking of switching the machine over to an LG Flatron L1920 lcd panel.
>>>
>>> With this or any other lcd, is there anything that really needs to be adjusted in xorg.conf to prevent long lasting damage to either monitor or graphics card even if it should come up fine on boot?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bernhard

>>
>> Yes. Enter vertical and horizontal refresh ranges.

>
> Hardly. X automagically calculates these for you.
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm


As the other poster indicated, it doesn't 'calculate' them. It will
usually get them from the moniter - but sometimes it does not - better
safe than sorry. If you manually enter the proper values much less chance
of anything going awry.

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rm@biteme.org
 
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Floyd L. Davidson <floyd@apaflo.com> wrote:
> rm@biteme.org wrote:
>>ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:


>>> Yes. Enter vertical and horizontal refresh ranges.

>>
>>Hardly. X automagically calculates these for you.

>
> Automagically calculates? I don't think so.
>
> The monitor supplies the range that it can use. But one
> very handy way to force a particular mode is to override
> the range supplied by the monitor. And the way to do
> that...


We're not talking about modes, Floyd. We're talking refresh rates.
In any case, X will use the optimal refresh rate without you getting
in the way and buggering things up.

Of course, if you want sub-optimal ranges...

When are you going to post that polar bear stew recipe?

cordially, as always,

rm
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rm@biteme.org
 
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ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:

> As the other poster indicated, it doesn't 'calculate' them. It


So you're being picky. X calculates the refresh rates by reading
them from the monitor. Ok?

> will usually get them from the moniter - but sometimes it does not
> - better safe than sorry. If you manually enter the proper values
> much less chance of anything going awry.


Aren't we talking about LCD screens? Can you identify a single
LCD monitor where X does not calculate the optimal rates by default?

cordially, as always,

rm
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:11 PM
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rm@biteme.org <rm@biteme.org> wrote:
>
> Aren't we talking about LCD screens? Can you identify a single
> LCD monitor where X does not calculate the optimal rates by default?


I though X only calculated them with the digital interface.

Anyway, I had to use a modeline to get mine to work at full resolution.

- Kurt
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~kurt
 
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B.Hoffmann <spamtrap@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Viewsonic, though once perceived as cheap, seem to be making some quite good monitors. I just had a look at the VX2030wm pondering if I should buy it. Are you happy with yours?


(your line wrapping is screwed up - posts are coming in on one line)

The only criticism I would make about the Viewsonic is there is a lot of
backlighting with the ones I have looked at. You won't see this in the
store - you need a dark room and a dark background on the screen. It is
only really a problem if you play a lot of video games, or watch movies
on your computer. About the only LCD monitors I have come across
that don't have the backlighting problem are the Dells. Overall, the
Dells seem to win across the board. I picked up an LG that I am very
happy with. A small amount of backlighting on two of the sides - nothing
big. The only complaint, really, is the weak stand - you start typing hard
and the monitor will vibrate a little.

- Kurt
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:11 PM
Floyd L. Davidson
 
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rm@biteme.org wrote:
>Floyd L. Davidson <floyd@apaflo.com> wrote:
>> rm@biteme.org wrote:
>>>ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:

>
>>>> Yes. Enter vertical and horizontal refresh ranges.
>>>
>>>Hardly. X automagically calculates these for you.

>>
>> Automagically calculates? I don't think so.
>>
>> The monitor supplies the range that it can use. But one
>> very handy way to force a particular mode is to override
>> the range supplied by the monitor. And the way to do
>> that...

>
>We're not talking about modes, Floyd. We're talking refresh rates.


*You* aren't talking about modes, idiot... because you
don't have a clue how it works.

>In any case, X will use the optimal refresh rate without you getting
>in the way and buggering things up.


How would an idiot like you have any idea what "the
optimal refresh rate" is, or even what that means?

>Of course, if you want sub-optimal ranges...
>
>When are you going to post that polar bear stew recipe?


Still smarting over being thrashed? Tough.

Here it comes again... :-)

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Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@apaflo.com
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