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Old 01-12-2008, 06:22 AM
Dr. David Kirkby
 
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Default How can I start CDE ?

I've installed Solaris 2.5 (yes don't laugh) on a SPARC 20 via a
serial port. The machine has a framebuffer, but it was just more
convenient (saved me sitting on the floor) to do so via the serial
port.

I did a full install, including the OEM bits. It is possible to get
CDE to start on this, or at least OpenWindows as a second choice? And
if so how ??? I think all the software should be in place - see below.

The machine has a CG14 (SX or VSIMM) framebuffer. The drivers for this
are installed.

# pkginfo | grep SX
application SUNWsx SX Shareable Library
application SUNWsxow SX Window System Support
system SUNWsxr SX Video Subsystem Drivers
application SUNWsxxgl SX XGL Support
application SUNWsxxil SX XIL Support


There seems to be one CDE package on the machine

# pkginfo | grep CDE
system SUNWdtcor CORE (CDE)

as well as a lot of OpenWindows packages (see later).

# pkginfo | grep Wind
application SUNWffbw FFB Window System Support
application SUNWleow ZX Window System Support
system SUNWolbk OpenWindows online handbooks
system SUNWowbcp OpenWindows binary compatibility
system SUNWowrqd OpenWindows required core package
system SUNWplow OpenWindows enabling for Partial Locales
system SUNWplow1 OpenWindows enabling for Supplementary
Partial Locales
application SUNWsxow SX Window System Support
application SUNWtcxow TCX Window System Support
system SUNWxi18n X Windows I18N Common Package
system SUNWxwcft X Windows common (not required) fonts
system SUNWxwdem X Windows demo programs
system SUNWxwdim X Windows demo images
system SUNWxwdv XWindows Window Drivers
system SUNWxwfnt X Windows platform required fonts
system SUNWxwinc X Windows include files
system SUNWxwman X Windows online user man pages
system SUNWxwmod OpenWindows kernel modules
system SUNWxwoft X Windows optional fonts
system SUNWxwplt X Windows platform software
system SUNWxwpmn X Windows online programmers man pages
system SUNWxwslb X Windows static/lint libraries
system SUNWxwsrc X Windows sample source

Any suggestions how to get this running CDE, or if not OpenWindows?
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Old 01-12-2008, 06:22 AM
Alan Coopersmith
 
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Default Re: How can I start CDE ?

drkirkby@ntlworld.com (Dr. David Kirkby) writes in comp.sys.sun.admin:
|I've installed Solaris 2.5 (yes don't laugh) on a SPARC 20 via a
|serial port. The machine has a framebuffer, but it was just more
|convenient (saved me sitting on the floor) to do so via the serial
|port.
|
|I did a full install, including the OEM bits. It is possible to get
|CDE to start on this, or at least OpenWindows as a second choice? And
|if so how ??? I think all the software should be in place - see below.

Solaris 2.5 didn't include CDE. You need to find a CDE 1.0.x CD and
install it separately. OpenWindows was included but not started by
default - you can login on console and run "openwin" to start an openwin
session. To have a graphical login screen always started, like later
versions of Solaris, either install CDE and run dtlogin or configure xdm
to be started automatically.

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http://www.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU/~alanc/ aka: Alan.Coopersmith@Sun.COM
Working for, but definitely not speaking for, Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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Old 01-12-2008, 06:22 AM
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Default Re: How can I start CDE ?

In article <bbdc5d83.0308160735.72d16f44@posting.google.com >,
drkirkby@ntlworld.com says...
> I've installed Solaris 2.5 (yes don't laugh) on a SPARC 20 via a
> serial port.


Laugh?

There are still serious military control systems running on 2.5.1.
(Heavily patched and fortified with loads of custom software, of
course.)

It may be old and crusty, but's still very important in certain circles.
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Old 01-12-2008, 06:22 AM
Dr. David Kirkby
 
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Default Re: How can I start CDE ?

Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>
> drkirkby@ntlworld.com (Dr. David Kirkby) writes in comp.sys.sun.admin:
> |I've installed Solaris 2.5 (yes don't laugh) on a SPARC 20 via a
> |serial port. The machine has a framebuffer, but it was just more
> |convenient (saved me sitting on the floor) to do so via the serial
> |port.
> |
> |I did a full install, including the OEM bits. It is possible to get
> |CDE to start on this, or at least OpenWindows as a second choice? And
> |if so how ??? I think all the software should be in place - see below.
>
> Solaris 2.5 didn't include CDE. You need to find a CDE 1.0.x CD and
> install it separately. OpenWindows was included but not started by
> default - you can login on console and run "openwin" to start an openwin
> session. To have a graphical login screen always started, like later
> versions of Solaris, either install CDE and run dtlogin or configure xdm
> to be started automatically.


Thanks a lot Alan. I did have a CD-ROM with CDE 1.0.1 (that came with
Solaris 2.5 server edition) so installed CDE and so now it's running
okay. Why I did not check the other CDs is beyond me!

Just in case anyone is wondering why I'm installing such an old OS, it
is to check portability of some source code.
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Department of Medical Physics,
University College London,
11-20 Capper St, London, WC1E 6JA.
Tel: 020 7679 6408 Fax: 020 7679 6269
Internal telephone: ext 46408
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Old 01-12-2008, 06:22 AM
Dr. David Kirkby
 
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Default Re: How can I start CDE ?

steem wrote:
>
> In article <bbdc5d83.0308160735.72d16f44@posting.google.com >,
> drkirkby@ntlworld.com says...
> > I've installed Solaris 2.5 (yes don't laugh) on a SPARC 20 via a
> > serial port.

>
> Laugh?
>


Okay, I'm glad you did not laugh, but I'm sure some will think I'm a
bit mad.

> There are still serious military control systems running on 2.5.1.
> (Heavily patched and fortified with loads of custom software, of
> course.)
>
> It may be old and crusty, but's still very important in certain circles.


Alas this is not going to have any serious military systems on it!

I just want to check that some code I've written is portable back to
Solaris 2.5. I would have done so back to SunOs 4.1.4, but the
autoconf maintainer decided to drop support for SunOs 4.1.4, so that
is not too easy to do now.

I don't know if it's still possible to obtain patches for Solaris 2.5,
but I won't loose any sleep if it's not. But anything that improves
multi-processing performance would be useful, as the code is
multi-threaded and the machine has dual cpus.
--
Dr. David Kirkby,
Senior Research Fellow,
Department of Medical Physics,
University College London,
11-20 Capper St, London, WC1E 6JA.
Tel: 020 7679 6408 Fax: 020 7679 6269
Internal telephone: ext 46408
e-mail davek@medphys.ucl.ac.uk
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Old 01-12-2008, 06:22 AM
Josh McKee
 
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Default Re: How can I start CDE ?

In article <3F3F2BFD.5B2D68EE@ntlworld.com>,
"Dr. David Kirkby" <drkirkby@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> steem wrote:
> >
> > In article <bbdc5d83.0308160735.72d16f44@posting.google.com >,
> > drkirkby@ntlworld.com says...
> > > I've installed Solaris 2.5 (yes don't laugh) on a SPARC 20 via a
> > > serial port.

> >
> > Laugh?
> >

>
> Okay, I'm glad you did not laugh, but I'm sure some will think I'm a
> bit mad.
>
> > There are still serious military control systems running on 2.5.1.
> > (Heavily patched and fortified with loads of custom software, of
> > course.)
> >
> > It may be old and crusty, but's still very important in certain circles.

>
> Alas this is not going to have any serious military systems on it!
>
> I just want to check that some code I've written is portable back to
> Solaris 2.5. I would have done so back to SunOs 4.1.4, but the
> autoconf maintainer decided to drop support for SunOs 4.1.4, so that
> is not too easy to do now.
>
> I don't know if it's still possible to obtain patches for Solaris 2.5,
> but I won't loose any sleep if it's not. But anything that improves
> multi-processing performance would be useful, as the code is
> multi-threaded and the machine has dual cpus.


Patches are still available from the SunSolve website.

Josh
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